Here are some correspondences and comments from various viewers of this site. If you have something to say, send your comments here .
From: Kevin Kille
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:27:49 PM
Subject: Blast from the past
Hey Bob, Great to read you memoirs, I finished 2nd behind you at the Tewskbury invitational cross country race in 1973. I won it in 1974.I finished 3rd in the Lowell marathon in 1977, I think that Vin Fleming won it.
I also ran at Case Western University, in Ohio at the Nationals in Cross Country in the snow storm, didn't Humbolt win it? Friends told me you drove around Boston Beeping your horn after your 3rd at Boston. I'm proud to say I made your acquaintance,
Kevin J. Kille
Stoneham High 1974
Fitchburg State 1980
From: Jeff Edmonds
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 11:45:11 PM
From: Steve Davis
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:42:45 PM
Hello Hodgie, .I sure hope this email is still active. I just stumbled upon the website bunnhill.com. Let me"jog" your memory. You taught me how to "re-sole" running shoes at the Runnery. I think I was the next hire after you. I bumped into you I believe near the finish line for the 100th , I use to work the medical tent, but have since not done that in about 5 yrs.
I have been curious as to if Sharpless and Steve are still around, okay hell for that matter are they still alive. Would love to re-connect with them. Hope you are well and if this gets to you, I would really appreciate it if you could respond. Be well
Great to hear back. Thank you.. That is too bad about Steve. I just sent Sharpless an email, if I don't hear back I will call him. I read the entries in your website and man it just brought me back. Those boys were certifiable crazy, it was quite an introduction for me back in High School. I almost peed my pants reading your entry as to how to you lived downstairs next to the re-soling room. That was just crazy.
Again, thank you very much. I hope you are well!!!
From: "Charlie Spedding"
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009
Subject: From Last to First
Yes, I remember you from my days in Boston, although I think you are right that we never raced each other.
I have often looked at your website, and particularly enjoyed reading other people's training - especially Greg Meyer's times on the Pump House Hill which I mention in my book. So I would be happy for you to include my Appendix on your site.
I am very pleased that you enjoyed it, and delighted that you want to include it in your bibliography page. It is very gratifying when I get compliments about the book from people who have been very good runners themselves.
From: "Jessica Minty"
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009
Subject: Bill Rodger's Training
I recently found the training log that you've posted online from Bill Rodger's year surrounding Boston. Thank you so much for taking the time to transcribe that! It is so fantastic and full of character! Please do keep posting more of his work. I take such inspiration from him. He's an incredible guy.
All the best,
Jessica Minty ( Profile of Jessica on Zap Fitness )
From: "Peter Ross Range"
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009
Subject: Boston Magazine Bill Rodgers Interview 1979
Many thanks, Bob. Great to hear a voice from the Good Old Days of running in Boston -- at least that's how I remember them. And many many thanks for this PDF (3.53 mb download) from Boston magazine. I don't think I have a copy in my files. I'll try to find and scan the Playboy piece I did on Bill and send it to you (it also ran in Reader's Digest, shorter). Failing that, I can make a copy and mail it to you if you provide a mailing address.
Is Bill still well and working? Hope you are, too.
From: "Ken Halla"
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009
Subject: Nice to see your site
I just saw your webpage. Not that you are much older than I (now 45), but I remember in college knowing about you and how great it was to get to know and race you later on when I moved to Boston. I hope all is well. I am still teaching high schoolers during the academic year and college kids in the summers. I have twin girls who are 7 and a son who is 5 and live in Northern Virginia. I still love running, but don't do it nearly as much as I'd like due to many aches and pains (but I can swim a mile free style now!)._ KenHalla
Good to see you too. I have lots of fond memories of the whole Boston NB gang, so it was a delight to stumble upon you all at the old Elliot (stumble as in it was so dark in there!).
Thanks for writing to tell me you enjoyed my book. Much appreciated, and I very much value your opinion.
I will be honored to be mentioned in your bibliography.
No plans to go the trials but you never know. My next gig is at at my old stomping ground of Grandmas in a few weeks. I am sure I will see you soon, you know how it goes, after 20 years suddenly three times in a row.
From: Nick Stanko
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008
Thanks for compiling the information on your website. It is a great inspiration to have. I hope to one day get close to the level you competed at in your late 20's and early 30's. Our progression of times is very similar, and almost scary similar in high school.
Any words of wisdom?
From: Gary McNamee
Subject: Dickie Mahoney
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006
Hello Mr Hodge.
My name is Gary McNamee. I live and run out of the Boston area. I've visited your website many times now. It's terrific and has been a great source of inspiration for me. I was wondering if by chance you had any pics from way back when of Dick Mahoney. He worked with my Dad and provided me with advice and help with my running back in the late 70's. Now, these many years later, I've asked him once again for help in prep for Boston '07. To my suprise, he's graciously agreed. I am pretty excited and humbled. I was hoping to find some pics for something I'm working on for him. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Pic of Dick Mahoney
Thank you in advance.
Best, Gary McNamee
Gurnet Classic Beach Run (The message below was originally sent to Bill Rodgers & forwarded to Bob.)
From: Jin Edwards
To: Bill Rodgers
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:39 PM
Subject: Fw: Beach Run 1975
Was watching the Falmouth Road Race last Sunday and you ran right passed me...It brought back memories of bygone years, despite the fact that you were tearing up the pavement that morning at a rather impressive rate.
I have a place in Green Harbor and am a friend of Jack McDonald who was the instigator, I believe of the Gurnet Classic Beach Run. Anyway I ran in that race a bunch of times..not in any serious way, but just to participate. We still live in the house on the beach and Jack McD gave me this picture a number of years ago and it hangs in my living room till this day. And it impresses me still that such a fine bunch of runners and cool dudes ,would come together for such an event...the intervening years seem to have smudged some of the simple lines we had drawn out for ourselves...But that just seems to be the way it goes .races such as the Classic are just a memory,...and life gets a bit more complicated at each turn on the course.
However, I just wanted to take a minute and send you this photo and tell you that many people in Green Harbor,as in many other ports of call, remember you with fondness and with great pride. And to think of you and your friends tearing down the beach together at the front of the pack is a memory that will live with for us for a lifetime.
Thanks for providing that memory and for the life you have invested in the sport and for the inspiration you have given to so many to improve their quality of life by running and oftentimes running hard to be even in your shadow
Peace, good to see you in Falmouth
Enjoy the rest of the summer --- thanks again
From: ruben SANCA
Subject: UML Freshman
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:52:58 +0000
Dear Mr.Bob Hodge,
I am a freshman distance runner at Umass-Lowell and I have always heard of you in the past about your running career. I just want to thank you for posting your information on your website which is very interesting to read.
From: Donald Reardon
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006
I stumbled onto your website quite by accident. What a trip down memory lane for a fan! I live in Portland, Oregon now, but grew up in Hanover, Mass. You were a great inspiration to me.. My abilities were just revealing themselves at Hanover Junior High School when you were sniffing shoe glue in the basement of the Runnery. Knowing that a world class runner was living and training in my hometown taught me that good training could be done anywhere. I used to see you in the basement cobbling shoes, but I never had the courage to ask for training advice.
It's too bad, I ran 14:36 for Hanover's 3 mile course in 1983 as a high school senior. Parents and and old teachers from the town remind me (even today) that it's unusual for even the best local high schoolers to come within a minute of my standard. It seems like there were so many good runners in Massachusetts in the 70's and early 80's.
There were amazing guys from small towns no one ever heard of, that ran really, really fast in cross country. Many never translated their successes on the trails to the track, but I still remember them. They disappeared after high school like ghosts. I'm one of them, actually.
When I arrived at Marist College in '84, I was pleased to see you and Vinnie Flemming (whom I later worked with at New Balance) held the home course record at Marist in Poughkeepsie. Marist had just joined Division 1 a few years earlier, so the big div 3 invitational went away, but I did finally break your record in a time trial. So even away from Hanover I was still chasing Hodgie. After college with a gig at the New Balance Factory Outlet store, (another coincidence) I trained a bit. Unable to make any kind of break through, I showed up at Hingham's 4.8 mile July 4th road race in 1990. Greg Meyer set a standard there of 22:06 back in his prime. I decided that if I could ever break his record, despite the obscurity of this local race, that it would satisfy any questions I had about my own potential -- and that I would never run a step again.
I ran 22:05 in 95 degree heat. I have not run a step since. Not even to catch a bus. I have scarcely thought about running over the past 15 years. It too, disappeared from my consciousness like a ghost.
Thanks for the great site. It's a fun look back. I think there's a book in all of this. A volume is needed today, to explain to young runners why you guys were so great with so little to work with. I think a history of your era -- the training methods, the commitment, the sacrifice, the mentality, is meaningful. At the very top of the game there are some good guys out there racing today, but the depth that existed in the late 70's and 80's in America is just not there. I think the title should be "Why We Were Great."
I used to work in Asia. One of my colleagues was Kevin Ryan of New Zealand. He still has all his old training logs. I was utterly shocked to see the kind of miles he logged back in the day. You guys were amazing athletes.
From: Greg Lautenslager
Subject: From the Slammer
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006
Good hearing from you and that are enjoying my novel. Please feel free to mention it to your friends and place a notice on your website, which I found very interesting. Lots of good memories there.
We grew up in a great era of running and I miss the great times of running and training in Wellesley. I still am in touch with my dear friends Ron Gillooly, Tommy Ratcliffe, and Ken Halla. One of the greatest times was the New Year's Day run from the Nike Wellesley Store to the Eliot. Some years I wouldn't arrive back at my apartment until a day or two later. I remember you doing the New Year's Day Run from Hopkinton to the Eliot. Even I thought that was a little crazy.
I keep bumping into Pfitzy all over New Zealand, including about 11 p.m. last Saturday in Christchurch. I see more of him New Zealand than I did in New England.
I am enjoying the Kiwi life and some great runs through the mountain trails that line the top of the South Island. My wife, Debbie, was a former New Zealand 5,000 and 10,000 runner. We have three sons, ages 12, 10, and 7. My oldest Craig says he wants to be a great runner. Wonder where he ever got that idea?
Please keep me informed of what's going on in Hodgie's life. Or better yet, I will keep reading your website.
From: Marty Dalton
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005
Ive came to be a huge fan of Squires, Rodgers, etc. I love the Speed with Endurance book, and am hoping the running store I work at part time will bring him in for a speaking engagement, if they can contact the agent involved, etc.
Is there any where else I can read up on his, yours, all approach? Thanks for all the information. Keep it up!
From: Anthony Horton
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005
As a runner of 27 years who is always trying to improve, despite the age of 42, the best piece of advice I've ever received was from your website: "let the tempo come to you". Wiser words have never been spoken in the world of distance running. Blessings on you and yours.
From: Jim Reardon
Subject: tsige abebe
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005
Dear Mr. Hodge,
I think Tsige Abebe may not be at the address listed on http://www.bunnhill.com/BobHodge/bibliography.htm#Triumph any more--I tried to order her book about her father Abebe Bikila from that address and my letter was return unopened and stamped "return to sender--not deliverable as addressed--unable to forward". When I do a websearch on "Tsige Abebe" I find a bar called Bar de la Channe in Switzerland that was founded in 2003 so maybe she moved to Switzerland. Thank you very much for putting up your wonderful site. It is inspiring and I tell the runners I coach that they should go look at it so they can get inspired too. Best of luck with your current endeavors,
Wisconsin Track Club (GBTC '98-'99)
From: John Fendrich
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005
Bob: Great website !
I have enjoyed reading it and your posts on
Letsrun.com. Your recall of past races is amazing -as were some the perfomances
My question is about your Sept 1972 High school cross country races . I see you ran 14:33 on the 2.7-2.8mile Bishop Fenwick "cross country course" (all streets). Was that a fast pace for you or were you just cruising.? The reason I ask is that I am a Fenwick alum class of '82. and when I ran the course in 1981 your time was in the top ten . The record is 13:53 by John Childs who was Div V champ in cross country in 1975. When I ran 14:03 and saw that it was faster than Bob Hodge from Lowell I asked Coach Dimaiti - "is that the guy from the Boston Marathon ?" and He said yes., Which completely amazed me. Injuries limited my Sr yr and I wondered if I could have approached your high school times.
I find myself now trying to to get back into some kind of running shape after a 20 yr layoff . Very difficult. Good luck on your upcoming birthday mile.
Regards, John Fendrich
From: Tim Sullivan
Subject: Silver Lake Dodge Marathon 1977
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005
I am enjoying your site immensely; always impressive to read about you and your peers.
I grew up on Bostons North Shore (Hamilton) and began running with my Dad as he took up the sport. I ran some of the same races as you in 1977 (age 11) and your log helped me fill in what were previously some fuzzy dates (Heartbreak Hill 10M). Mt. Washington of 1977 was the last race I ran with my dad, as he had a heart attack on a training run preparing for NYC that fall.
I noticed you ran the Silver Lake Dodge Marathon in 1977; that was my Dads first marathon and I recall his description of the snowstorm. I also remember him telling me he had to wait at a railroad crossing for a passing train.
Do you have any special recollections of that race, the weather, etc. or even how that race came about and what became of it?
Tim Sullivan (Bronxville, NY)
Correspondence between Bob and Lowell HS Coach regarding New Mile Record:
Sent: Tue 2/8/2005 12:00 PM
To: Maia; Phil
Subject: New HS Records
Hi Phil, Just wanted to pass on congratulations to Brian Gagnon on the new mile & 1000 records! I was at the Dartmouth Relays but unfortunately missed his race. Seems likely that he will run faster still, perhaps taking the 2 mile record as well?
I believe we discussed once before the fact that I had run 4:22 indoors at Beverly HS in April 1973, at an outdoor meet! I'm not sure if I was ever credited with either record.
Either way Brian has run the fastest ever mile run at LHS (far as I know!) I have posted articles from the record races on my site: Hodge Indoor Mile Record Surpassed
Please give my regards to Mr. Lang if you see him and let him
know that his photo is on my site as well.
Hope all is well and best of luck the rest of the year.
From: "Maia; Phil"
Subject: RE: New HS Records
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:13:04
Hi Bob, Just looked at your web
site. What a great job! You are actually credited as the current record holder
of the Outdoor Track mile. Perhaps I just figured that it was in April and it
was Outdoor. Anyway, you're still in the books for the Outdoor 2mile and 1mile.
|From: António Cabral
Subject: Some of my pics
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004
Excuse me my poor english.
Iīm very busy at the moment but i donīt want to lose this opportunity to thanks you - nothing in special - but a "little bit" of each your running details, your posts, your comments.
Only now, I realise that you are younger than me (but not too much...L.O.L), because in my memories I remember you since a long ago...you are famous in some sophisticate runners in my country - famous as Tom Fleming or Frank Shorter or Bill Rodgers - the main reason thatīs because you did a so large participation in road races mainly, and that you devote to road runs that made you quite famous in my country in the seventies - when road runs that it starts to be quite popular: few names we never forget: Colombian Victor Mora is one of them. Carlos Lopes that are another ones.
My running story is also a road running devoted story, but with more success than you in the tracks - I did 3:39,8 in 1975 (Portuguese rec. at that time) but soon I did a very serious injury (sciatic) and when I come back in the late 70īs I did decide to run for my passion road runs. That my decision did trouble a lot of people and coaches indeed but I did my path - road runs exclusively from short road runs 5kilos to half marathons.
With 18 years old I did a marathon run with no specific plan and I did 2:39, and later 2:32. When I decide my third rebirth as a master runner I try the marathon 5 years ago. I did 2.39 once again, thatīs quite similar to my marathon debut, thatīs similar to your sub 5:00 in the mile after the fifties. But with 50 years old I have no more courage to have a try...but letīs see...L.O.L.
2 more comments, One is that (with no offence) when I see your past pics while running you remembers me that you are from Mexico, I donīt know why. Eventually I did saw a quite similar face in a Mexican that is in my subconscious...I donīt know, but that you have a very original face for a typical American that you have ! Last comment is that if you did end serious competition in 1988 - you did lost some years - that I think you should have keep on with road competition.
Your friend, Antonio
PS - I will try my best to post next Norporth training. People underestimate the lessons of top coaches that were/are icons as Lydiard. He is a guide and a lesson of life and coaching more than any 100miles advise detail. Keep on going, and let me know how if on the next year summer you will be able to run in a sub 5:00. ! L.O.L
From: Wayne Stocker
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004
Just wanted to thank you for a great job at the Lydiard event
last night. I enjoyed seeing Mr. Lydiard and listening to your comments during
the presentation. Keep up the great work on the website and thanks for a job
well done, I pop in regularly to see what's new.
Thanks, Wayne Stocker (Just a regular runner from Western Mass.)
Subject: Re: Whaz Up?
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:25:05 +0000
I actually didn't decide to contact you until I read that you had raced at Franklin Park, a place I raced at for the first time recently...it was just sort of interesting, I guess. As an aspiring runner (one whose intellect far exceeds his VO2max, I'm afraid), I just wanted to thank you for keeping your website up. I have read many training logs and continue to try to learn more about what lead to tremendous accomplishments. Such sites as yours are a huge asset to this sport.
By the way, if you are ever in the Boston area and want to get a run in, I'll be a student here for a while.
Take care. Brad aka College Guy
From: Nobby Hashizume [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:18 PM
Subject: LYDIARD TOUR
Here's the announcement (Press Release for Lydiard Tour - Now with Fall Schedule). Can you please post this on your website? I will be talking to Jamie Chisum and Al Devereaux as well as Tom Derderian for Boston area. Can you also help us out?
( Attention: Boston Date is November 10th, 2004, site is Regis College )
From: Dave Dunham
Sent: July 6, 2004 9:28 PM
Subject: Website Comments
I had lots of fun reading through a bunch of stuff on your website. Man, your early history is very interesting. I really like the "remembrances". The training log is pretty cool. How about adding more stuff about each of the races? I eat that stuff up! Later,
From: Renato Canova
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:28 PM
Subject: Training Rodgers Rop
Dear Bob, I send you the training of Rodgers Rop in Kenya till Lisbon. Regarding the last 3 weeks before Boston, I decide day by day, because now he is in Turin together with other runners, that run Marathon in the same days (not only Boston, like Makori, but also Turin like Frederick Cherono and some new guy, or Lisbon).
I had here also some other marathon runner (Robert Cheruiyot in Paris, Steven Cheptot in Rotterdam and John Birgen also for Rotterdam), plus some lady (see the debut of Selina Kosgei in Paris).
Normally, I'm not able to join directly the programs of the athletes to letsrun, but if someone can do it, I can send thru e-mail more infos to him, for sharing with the readers.
I've some problem regarding training of Shaheen, Paul Kosgei and others, because on 31st of January, in Nairobi Airport, a thief pinched me my bag with the old computer, inside I had all the programs of the athletes. Now I have a new one, and I'm trying to rebuild more is possible, using old floppies (but I had also many floppies in the bag that the thief pinched me).
So, as I want to show only what the athletes REALLY DID, I use their personal diary for writing their training (that normally is 20-30% different from the programs that I give them), when I meet them in Italy or Kenya. Paul Kosgei, now in Kenya again, come back to Europe for running 10 km in Dongio on 11th of April, then stays in my house together with John Korir (and probably Shaheen), when Rop, Makori and the marathon runners of 18/19th already ran their race.
If you can post for me this training, I thank you.
Greetings from Renato (Marathon Training Methods - by Renato Canova )
Have seen some of your posts on letsrun and finally visited your site this morning. The old stuff is great! A few days ago, I tried to put up some pics of BR on letsrun but had trouble. Anyway, in looking for these photos, I came across a pic of you walking away from the 1980 Scituate 10k awards with your plate. My note on the back said you won in 30:17. Also, I have a pic of Gary Wallace and Dickie Mahoney at Falmouth, along with a number of other guys, including, Lindsay (we called him the "terminator") just ahead of you and Rojas.
I don't have a scanner but can have someone do (it) for me if you would like to see. Also, I have talked to Gary a few times down here in NJ and will give him a call today.
Didn't you work at a running store way back when that also resoled running shoes? In Marshfield?
[That would be Reebok - Bob bailed before it became a big success - webby.]
I will get into your site soon to check it all out.
Regards, Rick Boyle
From: Wischnia, Bob
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:00 PM
hodgie--i periodically return to your site for inspiration.........usually right before a marathon.....i'm running motorola in three weeks and i always get some insight from here..............although when i read some of the training logs (like meyer's), it's what NOT to do. anyway: someone out here in cyberspace is reading this.....me.
Runner's World Magazine
From: Tracy Horton
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 11:50 PM
You are indeed the master. I am a runner of 25 years and I am now 40 years old. In November of 2003 I qualified to run Boston and will toe the line in April on the 19th. My focus is to build the mileage and let the tempo come to me with a few races thrown in for "fitness tests". Thank you for a great website that brings back great memories of what US running used to be.Tony Horton
From: Brian Curran
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: The Runnery
Dear Bob: My brother Stephen Curran used to work at the Runnery in Plymouth years ago. It was quite a place between Sharpless and Caulder. Trips to the Hanover store could find you downstairs chatting with runners while Caulder usually had a comment or joke ready for his customers. Thanks for the website. Brings back great memories.
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:08 AM
Subject: Linked to Your Site...
Hi Bob, Great
site! I've added a link to your site from our links page and from our "Vintage
Photos" section http://www.runningpast.com/photos.htm Hope you don't mind.
I finished a few hours behind you in Boston '79, my first marathon.
Regards, Andy Yelenak - Running Past - www.runningpast.com
From: "Ginger and Neal Davis"
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:07 AM
Subject: Chris Ridler, not Tony Staynings
Hi Bob, Other rememberances? Well, I recall that you and the other GBTC guys were awfully good, studly even (perhaps that's an expression peculiar to those who've gone to school, or lived, in Kentucky). Beyond that none come to mind immediately. (I did meet and train with Paul Segersten in the mid-80's while he was the women's coach at Auburn and I was in grad school. Segs ran at U-Mass around the time of Randy Thomas, but you may have never met Segs (who's been in Austin, Texas for the past dozen, or so, years).)
I certainly did enjoy seeing those pictures of the '76 NCAA cross-country meet. I saved all three that you had to my hard drive to share with my team mates and Tony Staynings (you should see how large Tony's tummy is these days). They were great pictures and I was thrilled to see so many of them, especially since I never met Chris before he died.
Best wishes and good luck with whatever running you still do, Neal Davis
From: Ginger and Neal Davis
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: Chris Ridler, not Tony Staynings
Hi, Two pictures at http://www.bunnhill.com/BobHodge/PhotoAlbum/photos2.htm identify one of the runners in the picture as "staynings," meaning Tony Staynings of Western Kentucky. However, in both of those pictures, as well as the third picture from the '76 NCAA cross-country meet (which also pictures the same runner, but does not identify him) the pictured runner is Chris Ridler of Western Kentucky, not Tony. Both Chris and Tony shared much in common, but there is no mistaking that it is Chris, and not Tony, running so closely to Bob Hodge. I've attached a photo that I scanned from an issue of The Harrier from the same period (probably '77 instead of '76 though) to indicate what Chris looked like (he has since died from leukemia). Note, too, that Chris' last name is misspelled by The Harrier as "Rider" instead of "Ridler."
Neal Davis (WKU class of '80)
From: Gillooly, Ronald
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:59 PM
Just heard about your web site. Pretty awesome. Are you going to Higgin's this year? We will be there the first two weeks of August. It may be time for Lillian to take some surf lessons.
Speaking of Malmo and magic shoes. During one of his stays at River St ('84?) Malmo left a pair of custom designed NB racers with a full board last. Just what I needed. I can't remember if he left them or gave them to me. We have the same shoe size. Anyway, I ran several good races in them as they still had some life and magic including 48:57 at the Nike NJ 10 miler in '85 (without the aid of a pacemaker when I ran 14:05 - I wish I had taken the lead with 3 laps to go. I felt good but had never run that fast so I sat in the back as you remind me now and again). Unfortunately the midsoles condensed and I had to get new ones and never ran that fast for 10mi again.
I like the recommendations on training and suggested reading. I think some athletes today think too much about what they are doing and, therefore, set unconscious limitations.
Hope to see you at Higgins
Ronzo ( Ron Gillooly, C.E.M., Massachusetts Electric )
From: Fraioli, Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:13 PM
Subject: Summer of Malmo '03
I just wanted to drop you an email informing you that my teammates and I
here at Stonehill College are instituting our own "Summer of Malmo '03" this
summer. 4 of us are living on campus for the summer to train together and on
Sundays we get most of the guys on the team down here for our long run, and
afterwards we barbeque. Our aim is to qualify for Div II nationals this
coming fall in cross country and I liked the idea of "The Summer of Malmo"
that I read about on your website; hence, I made it our unofficial summer
motto. Thanks for posting a wonderful website... it has proven entertaining as
well as a great guide for my own training!
Stonehill College, N. Easton, MA
PS. If you would ever like to join us for one of our Sunday BBQ's, let me
know. Take care.
I came across you website and am in awe of your accomplishments after you left Johnson & Wales. Its been almost 30 years, I don't know if you remember me... we ran at J&W in 1973-74... for Coach Dugan... we trained the summer of 73 in Camp Varnum in Rhode Island.
From: Michael Wienholt
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 5:35 PM
Subject: Raleigh '79
Dear Mr. Hodge,
I remember watching you take 3rd in the '79 XC Nationals in Raleigh when the GBTC won the team race. It was cold and rainy-nasty that day. I had driven down from Baltimore with some Towson State University teammates and we saw you guys later at Two Guy's Restaurant on Hillsborough Street. That was my favorite pizza place in Raleigh after I transferred to NC State. I remember you and Greg Meyer and the rest of the GBTC eating together at one table while Alberto Salazar and Bill Squires sat apart at another table.
I grew up in Baltimore and ran the old Marathon Marathon (the Satyr Hill course, not the wimpy thing they run now) twice in high school - best time 2:53 at age 19. I spent 3 years in Eugene and was in the best shape of my life there in '87-'88, running a PR of 27:00 for 8K on the roads before injuries ended my running at age 27. I used to attend the Eugene Emeralds minor league baseball games and would often see Art Boileau in the stands, eating a hotdog and drinking a beer. I once met Matt Centrowitz and Steve Plascencia at a pub named Rennie's Landing in Eugene. I was sitting there wearing a singlet from the West Virginia Distance Classic "A Salute to Pre" race and Matt told me he was one of Pre's pallbearers and wanted to buy me
a beer in exchange for the singlet. I told him if he knew Pre I'd buy them a beer and he could have the singlet, which I did.
Anyway, I enjoy your site and reading about the heyday of US distance running.
San Diego, CA
There was no mention of the "Hodgie" dance anywhere? Although the log does in deed show the hard work it takes to run sub 2:15 marathons. The training back then was different (longer, harder) as can be seen by the results, especially with you.
The competition between all your teammates at GBTC was riveting and cordial as we all had the same goal in mind - Beat the Foreigners!!!
Tell Gary I said hello ! Happy trails
The "O" Tom Doherty
From: Clark, Richard
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: Great site
Your website brings back many memories of people and races from the past. The running logs should be reviewed by all runners to show what a hard training schedule was really like.
Remember you are always invited to the Sugarloaf 10 miler in Amherst, Mass.
The 2003 race is Feb 23rd, your course record still stands on this tough course.
From: Keith Dowling
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:32 PM
Bob, This is Keith Dowling. I ran 2:13.28 at Boston this year and would like to thank you for your site. It's hard to find (detailed) information on the old school greats from the '70' and 80's and the information you provide is extremely beneficial.
Thanks for helping me make my first Boston a great experience. Keep up the inspiring
(Link for his "15 weeks to Boston" log: http://www.restonrunners.org/special/keith_dowling_15wks.htm )
From: Thomas R. McArdle
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:09 PM
Subject: The Garden of Eden
I just took some time to really read through your site. It sounds like Boston was the place to be back in the late 70s and early 80s. I wish that was still the case today. I like training in Boston for most of the year (jan and feb not great). The only problem is that there are not enough trails within running distance. However, running does not get any better than the Lincoln woods. Thought your training looks a lot like what I do. It was interesting how few quality sessions you put in leading up to your marathon PR. It was mostly mileage and races. It gives me faith that I am doing the right thing up here in Hanover. Anyways just wanted to say I really enjoyed your site, it is ridiculous that so many fellow American distance runners are not willing to share their training methods with other people. We should all be in together. Best of luck with everything and thanks for the emails.
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: :)
Nice work Hodgie...this is a good read.
Thanks. Wayne Buckley Gr. Framingham R.C.
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: training
Hi Bob, Thanks for your great web site. It is great and I like it very much. I remember your running in the 70s/80s and find your comments and training to be very interesting. A question -- can you tell me what 3 or 4 miles of striders means? Thank you and best wishes with your continued endeavors. John Rupp
Original Message --Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:59 AM Subject: A run down
Dear Bob- What a delight to come across your website! Just looking through and seeing all those blokes who have commented was great. Nobby bobbed up again I see. He has to be the world's ichi-ban cheerleader for Lydiardism. Like me, he believes that it is still the best method of training. Unfortunately, in New Zealand most young kids (and their ill informed coaches) think it is outdated. I like to point out to them that Peter Snell using this method ran 1:44.3 for 800m on a grass track in 1962 and only John Walker (also trained in the Lydiard method) amongst NZers came close to that. Considering human physiology hasn't changed significantly since we began walking upright it beats me that someone could suggest that a training method successfully employed by so many over a long period of time should suddenly become redundant. Regards Dick Quax
Original Message Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 2:29 PM Subject:
running in general
Hodgie-San- Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Matt Gabrielson. I am 23 years old. I have become passionate about my running in the last year, more so than ever before. On Dec. 28 I was struck by a car while running in Knoxville, TN. Thankfully, nothing serious happened minus being unconscious for 4 minutes, 7 staples in my head, and a scraped back. Plus, I was a bit sore for a 9 days. I had a 9 day lay-off in the first part of the year. During this time, I realized that I love running. I love it for many reasons, which hopefully we can discuss in the future. I am also a part of Team USA Minnesota and am always checking your logs over the years for advice. Thank you for putting those up there. It makes it easy for guys like me - trying to reach their full potential - to look at stuff others before us have done and realize what it actually takes.
So with that, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind answering a few of my questions; questions that I am always seeking advice on, but often see humorous, discouraging answers to appearing in magazines, on message boards, etc. So I am going straight to a source; someone whom I admire as a runner. I did not run cross (country) in high school. I was actually an above average defensive back on the football team. So I realized I had some potential in track running 1:54, 4:18 and 9:21 off of ten miles a week. In college I peaked out my senior year '99-'00 at 75 during cross and 60 during track and managed a 4:01 relay, 8:06 3k, 8:56 steeple, 3:46 1500, and 14:18 5k. The thing I regret most was that the summer after I ran those times (2000), I pretty much thought I was retired from running. I got lazy. I did my student teaching during the fall of 2000 and ran maybe 1 or 2 times a week (if that) with a couple 40 mile weeks in November. Finally, I made a New Years resolution ( if you will) in 2001 and started running again eventually consitently doing 60 and 70 mile weeks. I applied for the Team USA Minnesota thing and luckily was accepted. SO I have been able to up the mileage to a consistent 80-100 miles a week this past fall and winter.
What I am seeking here is simple advice. What do you think about pace and things on runs? Do you employ a go as you feel attitude and if you feel like you can run 6 min pace you do, or if you feel 7 min is all you can do, you do it? Or what if you feel like running 7:30s? Or did you always try to run a certain pace? I guess why I ask this is because I simply just want to know. Did you always throw in some sort of strides afterwards? What about weight training? It seems even if I do the light weight, high rep thing, I still am a little bulky. I would say I am 5'11"-6' tall and weigh between 145-150 sometimes less than 145. Would you think something like dips, pushups, pull-ups, running curls, and some more ab stuff twice a week is sufficient. I do abs every day as well? What about nutrition? I often feel that I am making improvements in this area, but am always seeking advice. What do you think is most important in this regard? Finally, do you think if I stay consistent with it that I will be able to reach faster times? I realize that it may take years, but I always think back to that 4-5 month lay-off and wonder what-if. Is consistency gonna be the key?
I surely hope I am not bombarding you with too many questions. However, after reading your web-site for a long time, it seems like you're the type of person who would gladly offer advice. I hope to keep in touch with you and thank you for listening to someone trying to become decent in the sport. Best wishes, Matt Gabrielson
Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: GBTC Memories
Bob, I could not wait to visit your web site when Lloyd Thayer told me about it . It brought back wonderful memories of the "glory days" of the GBTC (See Boston Globe Article). Those were special days, especially the training runs from BC with all the boys. Thanks for bringing back the memories and I hope our paths will cross some day soon. Don Ricciato
Original Message----- From: Nobby Hashizume Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:35 AM
Hodgie-san (I believe this is "Mr." in Japanese?):
Hello. My name is Nobuya "Nobby" Hashizume. You can ask coach Squires about me. I've become good friends with him in the last couple of years and have visited him a couple of times. A great guy...
Anyways, a friend of mine suggested to check out your website. Read it with great interest. I'm so glad that you recommend Lydiard. I have been a Lydiard disciple for over 20 years. In fact, I even went to New Zealand to stay at his place for 12 months in 1984, went back to Japan (yes, you might have guessed it but I'm Japanese) to become a professional running coach for Hitachi under the influence of coach Nakamura. I've been in the US for 11 years now and am finally starting my running career (unfortunately not as a runner....).
I have brought Lydiard to the US in 1999 and became the last person to get Arthur and the late Bill Bowerman together. I am trying to bring him back again hopefully next year. In conjunction with it, I'm writing a couple of articles about Lydiard and the Lydiardism for a couple of magazines (Marathon & Beyond and Running Times). I will send you a script of RT.
I would very very much like to be acquainted with you through internet and as well hopefully someday in person (I'm planning on going to the Boston marathon for business).... I've got some "stuff" that you would be very interested in. Along with a program aired in NZ on Lydiard in 1991, I've got "Running is Your Life"--story of Lasse Viren training for Moscow Olympics, among others. I can also send you training log of Toshihiko Seko (in 1977 before his 5th place finish at Fukuoka) and Inubushi's training leading up to his 2:06 in 1999.
Best regards, Nobby Hashizume
Original Message----- From: Nobby Hashizume Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:23 PM
Good to hear from you. Yes, I would LOVE to see exactly what Rodgers was doing. Just quickly, I'm sending you training log from: Seko, Inubushi, Bordin (1988 Olympic champ), and Lopes (sorry, haven't gotten it yet - B.H.). Or at least I'll try. Couldn't do it this morning.
I'm glad you got to see Arthur in 1999. That's the one Bob Sevene organized (in Boston) and Squires gave the opening remark, right? That's the one I arranged. And I am trying to bring him again for more of a mini-camp, not just a couple of hours of talk.
Let's keep in touch! And when you talk to coach Squires, please say hi for me. Nobby
Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 6:17 PM To: Robert J. Hodge
Subject: Bob Hodge Website.
Thanks Hodgie, very interesting to say the least !!! Ironically I first opened your
site for training log, 1982. I noticed your 1 Jan run of 25 miles. I believe I ran that
with you and Tom R. and Gene-who did 21 miles. It was the only time I did that run. I
noticed how little you tapered for Beppu, 70 miles is still quite a bit. I wonder just how
fast you might have been that day if you had been rested. I also noticed how you took
virtually no recovery time. It was interesting to note that you took more recovery after
Fukuoka than Boston. Boston always beat me up. Is Fukuoka that tough a course or did you
just have a knack for recovering well from Boston?
Also, in looking at your log, I noticed that something fits in to a theory I've had, and that is that a good marathon will be the result of training one did not in the previous couple months, but more like six to eight months out. For example you did high mileage including a couple 130's and a 147 in early 1980, but then dropped out of Boston, yet being a bit more rested ran your great Nike Eugene time. It's interesting looking at the races and places you've been. I had always wished that I was a few years older so that I could have been able to do some GBTC workouts. I had the occasional 100 mile week but never did big mileage consistently. In fact my pr of 2:20 came after steady 60-70 mile weeks all summer. I'd like to have seen what I could have done with higher mileage and great people to train with. On the other hand I guess I have to look at the facts and realize that I got injured even with the training I was doing. I did have the opportunity to run with Squires (and began to run the best I had in years) in the 90's but by that time I was already involved in too many other things, coaching , teaching, etc, and I think being a bit older and out of it for awhile contributed to even faster injuries. Oh well, there's no looking back. I still have much to look at here and I'm sure the boys will like this. Thanks. Talk to you later. George
Hey. When you going to update this stuff, the women will be running 2:10 by the time you get to 1988.I want to read this site while I got my sight. I heard Hawk went to get a vasectomy and the Dr. said with a face like that you don't need one. I took Hawk to the zoo In Pittsburgh and the zoo keeper thanked me for returning him. I heard Hawk tried to pick up a hooker and the hooker took one look at hawk and said, not on the first date. Don "Spiney" Norman
Thanks for posting all the good stuff you do on Merv. I really liked the how they trained stuff. Really interesting.
Looking at your training I tried to do more mileage and less track or speed stuff going into my last marathon. In fact, I didn't go on the track once. I maybe could have used a few basic speed workouts but overall the system of just doing miles helped me a lot. I sure enjoyed the training more than the track stuff I used to do once or twice a week.
I went into the marathon this healthy - unlike last year when I didn't run one healthy. I don't know how it happened but during my taper all of sudden I had some speed come out.
Then marathon day I ran within 20 seconds of my PR that I trained and had to suffer to get.
So thanks for pointing out the importance of mileage and enjoying running.
Just discovered your website. It's good! I'm a very peripheral acquaintance - I was a 42 year old Masters runner in Miami in early '80 when you and Tom Fleming lived in the house off Sunset Drive in South Miami. It was a very tough time for you guys - with the Olympic boycott announced - but I really enjoyed the training runs with you guys. And they helped me win Gasparilla masters that year. It puzzles me that there are a good many very solid U.S. 5K and 10K runners these days, but so very few decent marathoners. Not only are guys of the caliber of you and Tom and BR almost totally lacking, but there are very few of the fair-to-middling caliber (low 2:20s-low 2:30s) of me and my friends. I don't understand why. In '77 one of my friends, Pat Chmiel, won the first Orange Bowl marathon. Afterwards a reporter for the Miami Herald asked him why he ran his 100+ mile weeks, why he did all that training. His answer: "It satisfies me." I think that was true for you guys; I know it was true for me and my friends. We just loved to run and to try to run fast - and to do it with others who shared our passion. Geoff Pietsch Gainesville, FL
P.S. Typing Gainesville reminded me: "Once a Runner" belongs in your excellent bibliography. The other books are great, you're right, but so is Parker's book. Yeah it's fiction, but it's also very real.
Great web site... I
really enjoyed "the trip down memory lane"... you were
always a very hard worker, and your "secret to success" was your love for running...
and I will always remember our training runs and BAA adventures through Beantown in the 70 and 80's!
Say "hello" to Frannie for me ... and your beautiful little girl, takes after her Mom!
Tom Fleming (TF)
Just wanted to drop you a note to
let you know how much I enjoy your
website. I've been injured (or recovering) from November knee surgery and
reading about your races has kept me sane when I can't run. Especially
since I recognize a lot of the places having run at Tufts. thanks and I
hope it gets updated soon. Pete Rodrigues
Thanks for sending me one of the most interesting, if not the best
website I have ever read. I learned so much about not only you, but what it
takes to be a runner. I love that picture of you and Rogers going neck and
neck! And, I thought my favorite athletes were Nomar, Tiger, and Paul Pierce.
Move over guys. The real hero is the one I just read about. You deserve all
the credit in the world Bob. I know now that I will never challenge you to a
run up our infamous stairs-but, maybe if you give me a head start! Thanks
again, Jon G.
Hodgie-san, I just got off your web page. Great stuff. I think you are on your
way to getting published.
Maybe I'll even learn how to get faster ! Mike O'Brien
Hi Bob - I just had the chance to check your web site out . It has been many
years since ULowell for me but I do have some fine track & field memories
with folks there 1976-78! I was with the crew of women who decided there
should be women's track too and pestered George Davis to include it !
Actually it was our cohort Debbie Geary who had speed and talent. The rest of
us were slow but enthusiastic.
Anyway I was pleased to see you were doing well.. I am STILL slow but
enthusiastic, and am headed to Hopkinton this year with Team In Training.
(Did Anchorage Midnight Sun Marathon in 99 which was an adventure for sure).
Any way just had to say hello- don't rack your brain trying to remember !
Goof to hear all is well for you. Patrice (Dwyer ) Kilham
Bob, I think it's great (despite no mention of Running with the Buffaloes in thebibliography:)
He just e-mailed me on Monday to say he is 3/4 of the way through the task,
so hopefully I'll get it back and on the page soon.
Best, Chris Lear
Bob: Great web site. thoroughly interesting to see the development of a young
grasshopper into master. Especially like the training. Keep it coming. John O'Mara
hi hodgie. amby forward your website address to me and been checking it out.
really love it. very fun. especially like your training diaries from late
70s GBTC thomas-mahoney-fleming-BR days..though would have loved to have
seen pace, courses, etc. great stuff though. i'm still constantly pushing my
old 50 yr old self and holding onto what little speed i had. unlike everyone
else, i haven't slowed down. was never much faster than 6:20-6:30 pace to
begin with so didn't have far to fall. now if i can only keep my body
together for anojther coulple of weeks (austin marathon), i'll be a happy
Hodgie, Excellent web site. I'm enjoying reading a lot of the tales ofyesteryear.
Bob: Great site.
You were and are an inspiration to many runners.
I bop around on the running sites because I am more a fan of the sport than a
competitor, these days, but, years ago when I first found running at 20 years
of age I did not ahve a high school coach. I lived in NY and researched all I
could of guys like you and Pfitzinger, Dillon, BR and others. You guys were
inspirational and I learned most of what I know about this sport just by
watching and listening. What I achieved by using those lessons still blows me
away. Nothing at your level but, still much beyond my original ideas of what
I have been at a few events that you were at but never had the nerve to speak
with you back in those days.
Well thanks for the site and I think that having the old guard talk about
what they did will help all the young runners, particularly with the internet
(what an asset!!)
"Those who know history are doomed to repeat it!" (I changed it, but in this
Ps. That was a nice section that concerned your family. Mike Platt
Thanks for linking to your atavistic endeavor. Great stuff there.
It's quite remarkable to me that no one has hired you as a coach. You seem a
It's a pleasure reading you on mervs, truly. It isn't just that for someone
Best to you and your family, Bob Tate
Bob, You are doing what I have always wanted to do and that is put down all my experiences and thoughts about running and racing. Like you said it probably more for yourself but unliek mine I am sure people dwill get more out of yours. We raced during much of the same period and I noticed that several of your races are races that I ran in. My PR's were 4:02 in the mile, 8:35 t mile, 8:38 steeple (Oly trials in 84), 14:12 5k and 29:56 10k,...I thought I would name my bio "Almost Made It"...as it always seemed to me that I was just on the fringe of being real good but could not quite put it together...
I am beginning to run again and I ran a 25:50 8K at age 42 and I am now shooting for a sub 2:40 marathon in Chicago...if it doesn't happen I havae learned that the adventure is most of the fun anyway...
Okay I am rambling but I am looking forward to reading more of your sight and finding more races that we ran together and remembering some good times...
Keep up the good work, Terry Drake (aka KCTrack)
Bob, I ran that one! I was a freshman at Providence College at the time. I
think I ran 3:05 or something like that and the BAA would not let me in
Boston because they felt that a blizzard would not add 5 minutes to a time. Jon Berit
> An Atavistic Endeavor
very cool...I loved your "belief" page! Perfect.
When will you update races beyond 77!
Bob, Thank you for a good way to fall asleep. Gary
Check out Mt. Weekend Web Site!
Hodgie-san, You were better looking in 1975.
Pete Pete Pfitzinger
Bob, I'm enjoying your web site, very good stuff. I'm looking forward to the rest. Paul Pilkington
Ko-neech-eee-wah, Hodgie-san, Great to see the e-mail and website. I have often wondered what current day U.S. distance runners would think about my own training, as I believe it is far different that what they do. Your documentation of your training is a great idea and I will be interested to see how closely it paralleled my own in those days .. in principle, mostly, not in mileage, etc. I do still have my diaries from about 1970 to the end in 1984. Yes, I too find great memories when I flip through the pages ... Nagoya in about 82 or 83 being one of them.
You are dead-on citing Lydiard, a great coach and teacher .. who by the way was very much a mentor foranother pretty good coach ... William J. Bowerman.
AHHH-SOOO-DA-SKA, Hodgie-san! As I age, I sure wish the old crowd from the 70s and 80s could put together a Grand Reunion somewhere,sometime ...
All the best! Jon Anderson
Thank you. I will spread the word. Many of the younger GBTC boyz could do
with reading your page. Tom Derederian
..and to think as a high schooler Alberto Salazar was my hero/role model. This stuff is long overdo, and this guy feels like a grasshopper again thanks to guys like you. Sincerely, Scott
Had nice time reading your journal, couldn't help but laugh at many of the lighter moments. I'll back you if you can get a patent on those fancy tee shirts you were wearing. (See also picture in Franklin Mint Almanac article. - ed.) You always were a slave to fashion. Keep writing it's good reading and I will pass it along. Sharpless